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Greg Matteucci
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MC10 block and head

Post by Greg Matteucci » Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:53 am

I am in need of a block,head and con rod for for an MC-10. If anyone may have a spare or a line on one that they would share, that would be great. The most important item is the block. I can make do with the head and rod if I have too. Please feel free to email me at gma2c@live.com.

Thank You.

Terry Sullivan
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Re: MC10 block and head

Post by Terry Sullivan » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:45 am

Greg,

You may be aware that some McCulloch chainsaws will provide the same parts. For a purist, the big negative is that the block would not have Mc10 stamped on it. Otherwise, you can't tell the difference.
I have a few real ones and a few 'replicas'. I keep the real ones stock. I don't mind modifying the replicas.

Terry

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Re: MC10 block and head

Post by Greg Matteucci » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:50 pm

I had not thought about the purist angle. I can not afford to be a purist. I would be happy with pieces from the 1-70 or 1-80 saw motors. It will be up to those who are sorting thru my junk after I die to try to sell it. I am looking to build a reliable stocker not a modified. sorry about the confusion.

Thank you. Greg

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Re: MC10 block and head

Post by Terry Sullivan » Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:28 pm

Greg,

I'm building 2 Mc-10 replicas right now. Do you want to build your own, or buy one that is done?

Terry

Greg Matteucci
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Re: MC10 block and head

Post by Greg Matteucci » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:00 pm

I plan on building it myself. I've lined up most every thing from some old stock in the area. I will have to build a couple of gaskets. I've held off on the piston till I find a block that is usable. Mine is .010 now with a gouge that will not clean safely....maybe if I can find a .060 piston which I do not think was ever made? I have a retired saw mechanic/racer that has offered to help me assemble it. Just to make sure I get it right.

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Re: MC10 block and head

Post by david a luciani » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:11 pm

Ok,

heres some info.
first look up mc10 heaven in this forum.
just plug mc10 heaven in the search function to find.
the bottom four are complete saw clones.
the top right hand motor is a mc10 block with saw parts added.
i know this from a little bird in my ear!!! :lol:

normally i'd tell you read everything written in the forums about mc10's and leave the rest to you.
i will advise doing this anyway but i am bored tonight so i'll write a abbriviated tutorial.

in years past i've advised people looking up the numbers and figuring out the interchanges themselves.
i was building a bunch of mc10 clones and spent months/years figuring out all this stuff.
below is info i gathered that i've never let out before but i have a few mc10's now sooooo.

FIRST:
the d44 block will be useless please send to Rick Chapman as he makes trophies out of them and donates them for vintage races.
it won't work as a decent kart motor and for this info that's all i'll ask you to do.


what you need.
mcd44 saw unmolested and either a 1-70 , 1-80, s44a, s55a saw
i've bought these motors for as much as 250$ all the way down to 10$.
if you're patient you can save money.

from the d44
you keep the center plug head , shroud,correct outer cover,flywheel,coil and inner shroud.
the conn rod bearings are useful save those though there will only be 22.
the rest either scrap or give to a chainsaw forum guy to reuse.

use only the 1-70 , 1-80, s44a, s55a saw
do not use any motor that's not listed the higher number 1-71 1-72 1-81 1-82 WILL NOT WORK RIGHT.
the cranks and points are different.
from the 1-70 , 1-80, s44a, s55a saw
take the inner powerhead = block, crank,conn rod and piston
the head ,outer fan cover and coil remove you can sell as a mc super series parts.
the inner cover and flywheel are usually mc10 type.
if you're wanting to now would be when you modify the block.
most port mods will make a mc10 a smudge faster without hurting durability.
if you've never modified a port and want to learn use the d44 block for practice
.

you can freshen the existing piston with new rings and quick hone if bore is good.
you'll have a early style mc10 with fat rings.
option #2
Teds saw piston ring modification:
carefully cut a slot in the center about halfway through the thickness in the top ring of the piston.
using a thin dremel cut off set in a drill press you go around the whole radius of the ring dead center.
a steady hand and extreme care is needed or things get real exciting.
the purpose is to mimic two stacked thin piston rings as if they were in the same ring land.
heat up the other low ring till it gets red and let cool this will break it's spring temper and make it soft.
put the soft ring low modified ring in top land.

option#3
buy a thin ring mcculloch kart piston.
it MUST be for a mc10 or the port timing will be wrong.

finally replace all the bearings and seals.
they are commonly available and cheap insurance.
paint whatever color you want have fun.
dave

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Re: MC10 block and head

Post by Greg Matteucci » Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:32 am

Dave,

Thank You for the info. I have been reading everything I could find here and other places on the mc10. as you suggest. I appreciate your response. It confirmed a couple things I ahd in my notes and gave me way more than I had gathered. I have parts list strewn all over the dinner table and pages of scribbled notes. I am indebted to you. If there is something I can do to repay you please let me know.

Thank You very much.

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Re: MC10 block and head

Post by david a luciani » Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:01 pm

just send rick any dead blocks and post pix of finished motor.
repurposing saw motors is a neat way to get more karts on the track.
dave

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