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McCulloch Kart question

Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:21 pm
by Dean Seavers
Does anyone know if the McCulloch karts were made from chrome moly or mild steel? I need to have a new bumper bent up and I don't want to use dissimilar tubing.

Thanks!
Dean

Re: McCulloch Kart question

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:20 am
by Randy Forbes
My guess is that it's Chromium-Molybdenum, as it cracks so easily; I think that mild-steel would bend (more) before fracturing.

I recently bought a 7/8" bender, but failed to give a verbal "okay" to place a bulk tubing order. If I have any money left when I get back home (writing this from Lido Beach, Florida, on The Gulf of Mexico) I'll go ahead and place the order for 7/8" 4130 tube. I plan to re-make an R1 chassis to replace one of the ones I picked up over the summer.

I already did the layout in a tube bending program: http://www.rfdm.com/gallery/album112/R1 ... 001?full=1

By comparison, a front bumper would be a piece of cake ;)

Re: McCulloch Kart question

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:20 am
by ted johnson
Dean, maybe it'd be better to use mild steel for the bumper. It's more yielding. More than one kart manufacturer in the olden days did just that, though it might have been more for cost savings.... Ted

Re: McCulloch Kart question

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:38 pm
by Randy Forbes
ted johnson wrote:Dean, maybe it'd be better to use mild steel for the bumper. It's more yielding. More than one kart manufacturer in the olden days did just that, though it might have been more for cost savings.... Ted
Not a bad idea, since it has to be spliced to the main frame anyway. There's no problem welding chrome-moly to mild steel.

Given the cost of 4130 tube, and using a brand new style bender (different configuration than my hydraulic bender) I'm seriously considering bending the R1 chassis in mild-steel for the first go-'round.

Re: McCulloch Kart question

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:56 pm
by Tom Luttenbacher
I beleive DOM steel tubing was more the norm as opposed to an exotic like Chromo which was costly and needs a welding machine like "tig" to weld. Tom

Re: McCulloch Kart question

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 12:59 pm
by Tom Smith
R-1 frame specifications-7/8-inch 1020 steel
if you're interested the R-1 weight distribution is front 43% rear 57%
weight less engines 109 lbs

Re: McCulloch Kart question

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:06 pm
by Tom Luttenbacher
1020 DOM steel tubing, weld it with any process you chose so says; http://www.ProtoFab.com. They offer many sizes and lengths for sale too. TL

Re: McCulloch Kart question

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:23 pm
by Dean Seavers
Cool-thanks guys!