stuck a 101...need some help...

[Chris Hanly]

Just posted over on vintagekarts.com....but figured I repost here...sorry for those who have already seen the post...

So I have only had the kart about 8 months and spent all winter troubleshooting and tuning my Invader with a MC101b...got luck on my first kart big time...now I'm spoiled...

Today we made it out to our new 'test track' and 10 min into it the rod shot through the block and stuffer etc...
so now I am left with a bunch of parts and carbs needing a new engine, or at least a block and piston assbly....

So I really don't know which way to go...part out the 101 and (huge swollow) get a 91 or even a kt100 to compete in some classes...or keep my pride and slavage the 101...

I absolutely loved that engine and am in the dumps since it popped...

Just looking for some guidance from those who have been there...

Thanks for reading....
-Chris Hanly

[steve miller]

hey chris does the piston still move ..?? if it does i doubt you stuck it probably grenaded it..!!! rod broke ,lose or snapped rod bolts ..did it roach the block ..??? ..dont feel to bad ..and im not here to tell you i told you so but if you read or remember about 2 months ago one of my first replys to any of your post was chris glad to see your getting into karting too bad you ended up with one of the worst first vintage engines to own ..like i said i no people that been into karting for yrs cant even keep a 101 going and parts are outragouse ..for a 101 ..good luck if can help you in any way i will i dont have alot of 101 stuff but let me no if i can help ..

[Chris Hanly]

yea...i should have torn it all down when i got it...but everything looked so good and it ran great for a month now with a few minor issues...
but yea it sent the rod through the back of the enngine...the piston is toast but it slid out the top and the rings still have spring to them so i guess thats a plus....
i almost want to sell/trade what i have (and cash)for a complete motor...hopefully a mac
as far as helping...i am open to suggestions at this point...i really just want to get back to riding....
if you have anyt engines you would be willing to let go of i would be most greatful...or if you can hint me who to bug for parts and probably a block, piston and rod assembly...im pretty sure the crank is good and the rest is good...just really bummed out....let me know...
as always...thanks steve...
-Chris hanly

[Rob Voska]

Remember this stuff is @ 40 years old. Were you running it down the road or on a straight that was wrong for it's gearing? I've had really good luck with my stuff. It takes knowledge & care to make it run. 91, 101 are the same to keep running but cost is a lot more for a 101. Yes you should have it rebuilt. Now it's to late..... this is what they call the cost of an education....... Blocks are hard to come by you will probably need another engine. 91's are cheap & there are a lot of them around..... but don't make the same mistake with it.

[steve miller]

hi rob and chris ..rob your so right ..sometimes well most of the time i try help someone i forget that ive been doing this for 35 yrs ...and most people just gettin into karting kinda learn the way most of us had too learn by the ol try and cry methood ..and like i told chris when he very first got started hang on your gonna spend some money ..its kinda like paying to go to school .!!! poor ol chris skipped elamentary school and jumped right into collage ..

[Chris Hanly]

thanks for the input guys....I have though long and hard and I want to trade what I have now for a decent 91...I have spoken with a couple of very very kind people that are offering me options and plan on getting an engine back on the kart ASAP...Thanks again to everyone and hope to get it resolved soon...I need seat time before circleville...thats what I have been shooting for since last october when I realized what I had found on craiglist...

here's the link to what I have minus a expansion pipe with repaired kndick header and the chrome shrouds which are in fair-good condition......
http://photobucket.com/sik03wrx

The clutch Is a hartman adjust a slip that leaks a little bit...
let me know if you can help or are intereted.....
thanks again!
-Chris Hanly

[herbert dickel]

hello Chris, just was wondering if you still need 101 stuff? if you need something call me at 1-440-967-7929 or email me at hdickel24@hotmail.com thanks herb dickel

[Chris Hanly]

thanks for the offer herbert....but i am going to be selling/trading what i have left for a 91 or similar...
i've been hunting all day....and night...havent made much progress but i'm waiting for something to fall into my lap.......hopefully...
-chris

[Bill Hermsted]

Chris- that was the most spectacular pathology of any motor that was ever seen. I feel your pain!
You deserve praise for your effort posting 26 pics with heavy heart so others might learn.
Was that a breakerless ignition? If so, maybe that should be looked into as a possible link in the Macs Last Run
I've learned that many heavy duty con rods have been made for the 101 over the years. This tells me that the stock 101 rod may not have been up to snuff. just lay one alongside a 91 rod and compare!
bill

[allan savins]

Hi,
Get the block welded.... check if the bearing pockets survived.
Allan