west bend 820 vs mcculloch 91

mcbob · Post by **mcbob** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:44 pm

OH come on Steve O at least i painted ma bender yella and thats why they cant catch mine

McBob

steve miller · Post by **steve miller** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 11:52 pm

hhhmmmm another shimmer of hope for the ol 820 and i ..but i havnt herd much fom crazy dave ..?? im thinkin hes either a little worried or in search for a 91 of some sort that hasnt had every open oriface reemed out ..witch might be a near impossible ..!! or maybe not ..needless to say way looking forward to avon as its an event not a race ..!!! so dave wont have to officialy claim defeat ..heheheh..!!

david a luciani · Post by **david a luciani** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:56 am

busy busy busy
b-ville coming
gremilins thick in the shop

will deal with you after b-ville m stevo us820

Dave

btw have a nos mc91 so no worries
D

steveohara · Post by **steveohara** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:48 am

820 vs Mc 91B1....
Jay Mendoza let me drive his A-Bone with a 91B1 at Adams this year and we entered it in the 125cc class just for extra track time and won the two heats we ran. Second place kart was running a Bonbright 820 with a nice overhead pipe and did have more bottom end but could not complete the pass even on the long Adams straights. There were several 820s in the group along with a few 101s too.
The 91B1 was all stock except we used a BDC 16 alky carb rather than the BDC gas carb that comes on the motor.
Of course, the results would suggest that the 91B1 is better than the 101s and we all know that isn't the case so it really all comes down to setup, tuning, handling of the kart, clutch, exhaust system, choice of fuel etc.
Fundementally the 820 is a good engine and the differences in the makes and sizes is only a small part of the formula for overall performance.
Pick your make of choice and work with it.... they can all give good performance.
You should see how Louie makes a PP run... awesome!
Steve O'Hara

steve miller · Post by **steve miller** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:49 am

its gonna be fun regardless ,i wonder how many heated conversations took place back in the day ..im sure the factory boys were rubbing it in to each other .. a gentalman i bought a bunch of stuff of had a west bend emblem tattoo on his arm ..gotta luv it some folks like chevys some like fords some like mccullochs others west bend or power products ..just think if every single person had the exact motors ..

Dick Teal · Post by **Dick Teal** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:51 am

It's interesting to see what engine someone likes. In the early to mid 60's the 820's were the hot engine; either B Limited or duals. I suppose that's why old guys like me like them. The fast 91B1 and 101's came later in the 60's and early 70's.

My kids ran 49's from the start of the rookie class and I suppose that's why I enjoy working on them now. I had a lot of hours making the stock class motors run fast. There's way too many things that go into a fast kart and motor combination like Steve listed. But that's why we're having soo much fun.

I never owned any West Bend 700's or 580's, Power Products, etc. I did have a pair of B-Bombs on a Rupp K-Kart enduro but I'm not interested in putting something like that together today. If I did I would probably hurt myself.

I would guess that whatever you were familiar with back when you raced in the vintage period is what you like to run and work on today.

Dick Teal
PS; I'm looking for good stories for the VKA magazine and Newsletter on mechanical things. Send me an e-mail at teal@charter.net if you've got something to share. We don't need secrets today so open up about what you found to make a winner.

steve miller · Post by **steve miller** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:06 am

Hey andy ..do you race at oriville i think thats the name of track..with carl H.and kurt W. if so looking forward to meeting everyone there ..i been doin alot of research on the track and competitors ..seems like most everyone that races there is pretty serious .and goes like H&ll..!! so im thinking ill have to polish up my motor,driving,and set up skills ..befor i come play wit the big dogs ..

Chris Marchand · Post by **Chris Marchand** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:12 am

Don t forget the driver in these dicussions. Several of the responders here can run the pants off of anyone with a good handling kart.A couple of these guys are former National Champs and probably can make a stock Briggs flat head outrun us, ha ha ha .

steve miller · Post by **steve miller** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:04 pm

yeah yeah we will see .!!! lol jeeez chris thanks alot ..!!! well at least when i tell everyone how bad i got smoked i can say but the dude was a former national champ.... now im really looking forward to comming and meeting some people ..i dont think im gonna be settin the world on fire but ill be smileing for sure ...

Chris Marchand · Post by **Chris Marchand** » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:43 pm

Thats the real reason we do this !!!!

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